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Great Lives

Walt Disney

Great Lives

BBC

Documentary, History, Society & Culture

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2010

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Satirical cartoonist Gerald Scarfe nominates Walt Disney.

He joins Matthew Parris to discuss the life of a complex cultural icon.

With guest experts Brian Sibley and Richard Williams, creator of Roger Rabbit.

Gerald spent much of his childhood in his sick bed, so it's not surprising that Disney cartoons and feature films meant so much to him. He can still recall the thrill at the prospect of seeing Pinocchio at the cinema, and then the agony of being led away again in the rain because the tickets were too expensive.

Walt Disney came from a working family. His god-fearing father Elias, said by one writer to have 'hated Capital, and favoured Labour, but really needed to make a buck', found work where he could. So Walt lived a peripatetic childhood, and sought solace in drawing and play acting.

Hard times early on did not make Walt frugal with money in adulthood, and despite the huge successes of the golden era of Disney, it was only with the opening of Disneyland that Walt attained any substantial personal wealth.

You don't have to look far to find myth surrounding Walt Disney.

Even after his death, rumours that his body had been cryogenically frozen spread so widely that they soon slipped into folklore.

He'd actually been cremated, but the readiness with which the cryogenic claim was accepted perhaps bears witness to a man who was terrified of dying, who believed in the white hope of technology and who, some might say, had been searching all his life for an escape into an immortal, fairy-tale world.

A man who was seemingly unpretentious, and did not fit the image of movie mogul with his scruffy tweed jacket and awkward demeanour, yet a man who was accused of being a tyrannical egomaniac.

The son of a socialist who ended up naming names at the House of Un- American Activities committee. Above all else perhaps though, they discuss the life of a man who strove tirelessly for perfection and who changed the cultural landscape of a little boy called Gerald, and arguably of the world, for ever.

Gerald Scarfe himself is best known for his classic images lampooning the great and the good of politics, and also in his iconic animation for Pink Floyd's The Wall. He reveals in this programme that he also spent time working on the Disney production Hercules.

Producer: Miles Warde

First broadcast on BBC Radio 4 in September 2010.

Transcript

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Today's Great Life was one of the most famous men of the last century. As well known

0:46.0

right around the globe as Winston Churchill Mahatma Gandhi or Chairman Mao.

0:50.2

Before I tell you who he is though, I want to play you a clip of him being interviewed

0:56.1

on the BBC in 1949, the year of my birth.

1:00.9

Now then, there's one thing I'd like to know amongst all your characters such as Goofy, Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, etc.

1:07.0

Have you got a favorite character of your own?

1:10.0

Yes, I have. It might be sentimental, but nevertheless it has to be, and it is, Mickey Mouse.

1:19.0

Do you still do the voice? I do, yes. Would you like to do it? I don't admit it

1:25.8

Well, it's such a silly thing for a guy like me to be sitting here talking this way.

1:35.0

Well, thank you very much indeed, Mr Disney. I know we're all very glad to hear that voice again.

1:40.0

Walter Elias Disney,

1:43.7

Disney, better known as Walt, is today's subject.

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