Welcome welcome welcome to episode 131 of the eaves 131 of the eavesdrop podcast award winning eavesdrop podcast I cannot tell you how many like when does this end at what point of my like you know what like we've had so many rip like repetitions on guests we have a man wall she

I'm going to read some some stats before I get started before I start you know massaging the ego right I'm I'm going to go through with this right here

You were called the first superstar of console esports agreed has a record for most consecutive MLG tournaments you won nine in a row right has 23 MLG tournament wins called captain clutch signed the sign of one of MLG's first $250,000 management contracts signed $1 million contract with Dr. Pepper first ever Red Bull sponsored athlete

esports athlete started team FFA to dethrone the ogre twins did you succeed in that yes and you succeeded in that joint the ogre twins for final boss one of the first people to adopt a BR shot one of the first people to play claw started his own clothing line

I mean the all of this all of this is happening right so it's something reading this like I remember very very clearly sitting in my townhouse in

Chamburgle in the first house that I ever bought my daughter was I literally had just started doing like this gaming thing my daughter was just born

and I remember feeding our spaghetti in my kitchen or my dining room looking at our TV in the living room and seeing you there as I'm starting out so one thank you for that because it it showed me that

there's something more to what I was doing which was just uploading you know video game game footage on the internet the other thing is like it it sort of gave me an imagination or a vision that I

too could do something like that if I applied myself well what when I saw and I don't know if you remember this what documentary or what show was it on it was an USA on TV.

Yeah so one small correction there everything in that you said there so far was correct the doctor pepper thing incorrect inside a big deal doctor pepper but regardless it was on USA network it was like six or seven one hour

episodes on USA Saturday morning which like got so many people into gaming they're like you know I was big into Halo but then like I started seeing on TV and you know just

kind of really brought a lot of legitimacy that gaming was craving mm-hmm awesome. Maddie it was it was T squared that the doctor pepper thing right T squared had a doctor pepper deal yep.

Wikipedia is wrong for sure yeah I think I think there's been stuff on there and then how about you double verify from here and I'm okay.

So it was it was on USA I'm going to tell you what I remember and then we can get started on the conversation just so you can understand the impact that you had in my life like literally for real.

Like I said I was I was trying to make something happen I was actually in between jobs at the time when I was when I was creating YouTube videos and and taking care of my daughter while Judith my wife was working and it was right after I jump feet for into feet first into doing the optic thing you know consistent basis and at the time we

had already been making YouTube videos with you know no no way of making money right so we were just doing for the passion of the word of mouth and it worked right like it was a passion thing as as gaming should be.

But when I saw that there was like tournaments for Halo and I'm playing college I'm like I'm like that's going to happen in college you 100% and as I'm watching I see the success that you were having in this in this like many documentary or part of the show that they they

do you know how they do those little mini documentaries in between the shows like they showed you that you bought you had bought you had bought a house off of gaming.

You had created a cat netto and you you got the tattoo right you can't I mean you don't have to you know how it's there well right there.

And I started to think I'm like I'm like that is so genius right that this dude is exploring and by then I had already had the thought that I was going to be Zergris you know Zergris.

I know montage called do you make her at the time still still going strong but like at the time I already want to be that dudes manager and I had this this thought I'm like I'm like I'm like 50,000 subscribers this dude has on on on on on on YouTube gris.

And I'm like that's 50,000 people if I go to game and former if I go to all these like places like they're going to want to show this guy.

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