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Hello, from the train station and Brussels, I'm about to make my return journey back home

after the triumphant Brexit cast three years since Brexit Day reunion special.

That rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

Also, at the end of this episode, we're going to have the ceremonial handing of the torch

from the Brexit cast Fab 4 to the Eurovision cast Fab 4.

Because today we're launching a new spin-off podcast all about the Eurovision Song Contest,

which is going to be held in Liverpool.

And basically, they're going to take the Brexit cast thing to guys, to Gals, a whole load

of knowledge, a whole load of fun.

And instead of applying it to Britain's departure from the EU, they're going to apply it

to Britain's hosting a Eurovision, which we're doing on behalf of Ukraine.

So that'll be fun.

I need to get a present for them though, to cement the ceremonial handover.

So as I am browsing the aisles of the, of the tatt-shop at the station, I will just kind

of give you my conclusions from having been in Brussels for kind of like 36 hours.

And it's very much as Katja was saying on the reunion episode, which you can hear on

BBC Science, which is that the kind of the signals from Brussels about the negotiations

on the Northern Ireland protocol are looking quite positive.

And I think that's for a few reasons.

The EU Trust, Richie Sunack, a bit more than they trusted his predecessors.

They think he's made overtures to them about having a warmer relationship, and they're

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