Walking Through Anxiety: Faith, Marriage, and Mental Health with Shawn & Jill Johnson
Stay True with Madison Prewett Troutt
Madison Prewett Troutt
4.8 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2026
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to another episode of Stay True Podcast! This week, Madi sits down with Shawn and Jill Johnson, Senior Pastors of Red Rocks Church, for a vulnerable conversation about anxiety, mental health, marriage, and how faith shapes the way we walk through life's hardest seasons. Shawn and Jill share what it truly looks like to face anxiety with courage, lean into God together as a couple, and find support and strength in both community and scripture. This episode doesn't shy away from the real questions many of us are too afraid to voice, especially when it comes to marriage, vulnerability, and mental health. Whether you're personally walking through anxiety, supporting someone who is, or simply seeking grace and truth in the midst of struggle, this conversation will leave you encouraged, seen, and reminded that you're not alone.
Always remember to stay you and stay true.
Questions/topics discussed and answered:
• What anxiety really looks like in everyday life and in marriage
• How Shawn and Jill navigate mental health together as partners and pastors
• Where faith and mental health intersect… and where they don't
• Breaking the stigma around anxiety in the Church
• Practical tools for walking through anxiety with hope and support
• How to invite God into the hard moments without shame
AND SO MUCH MORE!
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Kiss the Fire by Pastor Shawn Johnson: https://a.co/d/6Mzqff3
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You have an incurable brain disease and your life's about to change. |
| 0:03.6 | I said, coach, it's not good. And I told him what the doctor had told us. He goes, we're going to kiss this fire and walk away whistling. How do you keep getting back up and how do you keep fighting when it feels like you can't? I'm not Sean's source. The Lord is his source. I'm tired of fighting. I don't want to be a pastor. I don't want to talk to God. I don't want to go to church. |
| 0:21.5 | Any support that I had for him came out of my quiet time places where I prioritized just time with Jesus. When we start to really hurt, we want to isolate. The worst thing to do is to isolate. Because of that pain, that's what gives me the ability to help and influence people in a way today that I never could without that pain. |
| 0:39.6 | I just remind myself that I will turn this pain into purpose. |
| 0:44.0 | I was like, have you ever even cussed? |
| 0:45.4 | And she goes, I did once in a mirror just to see what it would sound like. |
| 0:49.8 | And I'm like, yeah, we're done. |
| 0:51.1 | Like, we just can't work. |
| 0:59.6 | Wow. I'm like, yeah, we're done. Yeah, we can't work. What's up, guys? |
| 1:00.4 | Welcome back to another episode of Stay True podcast. |
| 1:02.8 | I'm your host, Madison Pruitt Trout. |
| 1:05.1 | And I got my handsome husband to the right of me. |
| 1:07.9 | Good to be here. |
| 1:08.4 | Yep, Grand Trout. |
| 1:09.4 | Yes. |
| 1:09.7 | In the podcast studio. |
| 1:10.6 | And we are joined with some dear friends. Yep, Grand Trout. Yes. In the podcast studio, and we are |
| 1:11.3 | joined with some dear friends. We got Pastor Sean and Jill Johnson in the podcast studio today. |
| 1:17.5 | So fun. Come on. They lead Red Rock's Church in Colorado, but you guys have multiple campuses and locations. |
| 1:24.5 | Yeah, we have one in Austin and one in Brussels, Belgium. Amazing. And Denver. Wow. Brussels, Belgium. We got to check that. We got to go visit that one. Yeah, we should add that to our list. And we're going to be talking about your new book, Kiss the Fire, seven ways to get back up when you want to give up. Wow, that just is like, that's like a little bar right there. I like that. It's always to get back up when you want to give up. And I'm really excited to talk about this because one of, we're, and we're just going to dive in and then I want to hear your stories and all the things. But one of the biggest feedbacks we've gotten on a podcast we've done is when we really opened up about anxiety and just learned that that's something a lot of people |
| 2:03.1 | deal with. And you talk a lot about that in this book, and it's a big part of your story and how God |
| 2:08.3 | has used you guys. So I would love to just open up and we'll have you guys open up and talk about |
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