Well, hey, everybody. Yesterday I had the profound privilege of interviewing

Camille Cates. As you heard her story unfold yesterday, it's a story of tragedy,

but it's also a story of triumph. And today I'm going to air part two of my

interview. We're going to talk a little bit more about her family now and how

God brought her from a very dark place in her life to finding hope and healing

that is only available because of the gospel. This is going to be a powerful

conversation. You have found the Heidi St. John podcast to stick around.

I think you're going to be encouraged.

So Camille, thank you for coming back on the show today. You told your story

yesterday, which I was just telling you off camera that I hadn't read your

story. I mean, I read that you're reading, you know, that you're ministering to

women who are post-abortive. So I knew that you had an abortion. I had no idea

that your daughter had been murdered and sexually assaulted by a boy that

you'd been dating. And so you came into your abortion

with a lot of trauma and grief. And really the enemy just

did a double whammy on you, right? Because you really got pressured into this.

And now God brings, then God brings an amazing man, a godly man in

Charlie boy, what a difference, right? A godly man makes. It's just

I'm also married to a wonderful godly man who spent a time just trying to

pick me up and help help, you know, working really in tandem with the lord

to sort of put me back together. And it's it's a powerful,

powerful thing. So yesterday when we left off, you had talked about

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