You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds. So for this week's Grum5 podcast we're in the sunshine because it's a nice day, it's been a nice few weeks,

and we've decided to come up to the Vale because the Sevens Boys have invited us along to kind of see their training which we missed and to catch up with a few of the

labs afterwards so Owen Jenkins is here how are you Owen you okay?

Yeah very good thanks stuff some timeometime listener? Part-time list.

When I get a mention, yeah, whatever you get a mention and I don't kind of get it wrong.

You're a listener.

Corey, how are you, Corey Allen?

Yeah, good thank you, mate. Part-time seven's player.

Part-time.

Part-time-15's player.

Limited, very limited 15.

And Adam Thomas is here as well how you make.

All good, thank you.

Yeah, you were, you're currently a bit distracted from life.

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