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Waking Up Your Spiritual Brain: Part 2

Hidden Brain

Hidden Brain Media

Arts, Social Sciences, Performing Arts, Science

4.642.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2026

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Last week, we talked with psychologist Lisa Miller about the science of spirituality. Today, we explore what those ideas can look like in everyday life. Miller explains why moments of connection, spiritual practices, and even periods of suffering can sometimes open the door to deeper meaning and growth. And on Your Questions Answered, behavioral scientist Dave Evans returns to respond to your comments on designing a meaningful life.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Brain. I'm Shankar Vedantam.

0:03.9

About a century ago, the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung was treating a young woman.

0:10.1

He sat with his back to a window, listening to his patient.

0:15.5

She told him about a dream she'd had.

0:18.6

In it, she was given a piece of jewelry, modeled after a beetle,

0:22.6

long considered sacred in Egyptian culture.

0:26.6

The scarab beetle was associated in ancient Egypt

0:29.6

with a divine force that moved the sun.

0:32.6

Intricately carved scarab jewels

0:34.6

was sometimes placed on the hearts of the dead

0:37.9

to assist them in the afterlife.

0:41.7

The young woman told the psychiatrist

0:43.5

that in the dream, she was given a golden scarab.

0:47.8

As Jung listened to the story,

0:49.8

he heard a tapping behind him.

0:51.8

He turned to see a flying insect knocking against the window pane.

0:57.1

It was a beetle. In a monograph on what he called synchronicity, Carl Jung wrote, I opened the window

1:05.5

and caught the creature in the air as it flew in. It was the nearest analog to a golden scarab

1:12.3

that one finds in our latitudes, a scarab-beard beetle, which contrary to its usual habits,

1:18.4

had evidently felt an urge to get into a dark room at this particular moment. Scientists have

1:26.9

debated Jung's theory for decades.

1:29.9

Many have argued that what happened in that room was nothing more than an interesting

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