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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Waiting game: What the rush to private health means for the NHS

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 26 February 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

As NHS waiting lists get longer, more people are turning to private healthcare. Is this skipping the queue accelerating a decline to a two-tier system, or will the demand for more encourage policymakers to fund the NHS properly to raise the standards? Efua Poku-Amanfo from the Institute for Public Policy Research joins Hannah Fearn in the Bunker to find out.  “Young people 18-25 specifically… were less likely to have confidence in the NHS “There will be groups in our society who have options, whilst not ideal… the concern is for those who get left behind “For older people there’d often be a nostalgia to having a family doctor… young people are less likely to have that kind of nostalgia for the NHS.” www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Hannah Fearn. Producer: Jet Gerbertson. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Lead producer: Jacob Jarvis. Bunker music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Jade Bailey. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:11.4

Forty hour long waits in A&E, nurses and paramedics striking over appalling working conditions and low pay.

1:18.0

GP appointments only available by some mad 8 a.m. Scramble on the phone and years long waiting lists for routine treatment

1:24.8

as the health service recovers from the pandemic. With the NHS and its worst state for decades,

1:29.6

what future does it have? A Fia Poco-Mampo is a researcher on health issues for the

1:34.8

IPPR and she's here with me to discuss that and more. Hi Afia. Hi Hannah

1:39.3

thank you for inviting me on the podcast it's really great to join you today. We spoke last year when I was

1:44.4

writing about private health and you told me something fascinating that actually

1:48.4

shocked me a bit because it was so hard to access a GP during the lockdowns, the use of private medicine increased during the pandemic, and that was particularly true for older people.

1:58.0

And I guess that we might expect because they're both more likely to have the spare cash and more likely to suffer ill health. But also, and this is the bit that

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