In holding that quiet, like literally for those, you know, in that 24-hour span, that's the same discomfort we have when we find ourselves saying, where is God?

What is happening right now? My kids sick. My husband left. My parents are dying. My friends have abandoned me. whatever the thing is, we don't like that.

So we want to give me a solution and get me out of here. And it's that same discomfort. I think

that we really, we struggle even more and more so now, you know, in our current culture.

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Well, Alisa, I know that this guest that we have on today is a deep soul.

And I'm excited to learn from her.

You can tell she's a deep soul just by the titles of her books.

So I'll share the titles,

Peace in the Dark, Life Surrendered and Break Bread Together. And she is somebody that really wants to

pursue and continues to pursue just deeply formed spiritual life, growth in community, loving others,

allowing people to just feel deeply about their walk with God.

And I feel like she gives a lot of permission slips, not that she's the authority to do it, right?

But she is somebody that is like locks arms with people, gives them permission to deeply feel.

We'll take a permission slip from anyone who offers it.

I mean, my hands are wide open for that. Yeah.

Yes. Well, Jessica, welcome to the God hears her podcast. We're so excited to have you.

Thank you so much. I am thrilled to be with both of you today. Share with us. Where are you coming from

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