Hey, notice self-listeners, it's Manusher.

We got a little bonus for you this week.

This was actually supposed to be next week's show.

It is a conversation between me and on the media host Brooke Gladstone.

But Cat Erin and Jen Poin, producers of the show, were like, you know what, I think we

got to put it out this week.

And they're actually here to tell you exactly why.

I know I've been falling down a bit of a rabbit hole on Twitter this week.

This is Jen, by the way.

The nature of what's happening in our country, the news.

It's a little bit hard to figure out what's real.

And it's not just like a question of fake news versus real news anymore.

I don't know what is happening in our world, Cat.

Yeah, I mean, you and Brooke, we're talking about the nature of reality and the trouble

with reality.

And this week it's been like, you know, headline after headline, where what you think

is real is suddenly not real is spicer in the bushes is he among the bushes is the

leak of classified intelligence fake news or is it real, but not a big deal.

Yeah, and it's also the whiplash of a bunch of news, a bunch of big bombshell stories happening

back to back to back just in the past week.

We've got former acting attorney general Sally Yates giving explosive testimony about one

of President Trump's former national security advisors.

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