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Matter of Opinion

Wait, Are There Actually Aliens?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The New York Times Audio app includes podcasts, narrated articles from the newsroom and other publishers, as well as exclusive new shows — including this one — which we’re making available to readers for a limited time. Download the Audio app here. It’s an age-old question in America: Is the government lying to us? According to David Grusch, a former intelligence official who recently alleged that the U.S. government is secretly storing alien spacecraft, the answer is yes. He is, of course, not the first person to make a claim like this, but lawmakers appear to be taking him far more seriously than previous would-be whistle-blowers. So, what’s really going on? On this week’s episode of “Matter of Opinion,” our hosts discuss what the government is and isn’t telling us, and what the obsession with classified cover-ups says about our complicated relationship with power. If you have a summer reading recommendation, share it with us by leaving a voicemail at 212-556-7440. By leaving us a message, you are agreeing to be governed by our reader submission terms and agreeing that we may use and allow others to use your name, voice and message.

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0:00.0

What Ross really wants here is to be the one that the aliens come for.

0:04.2

No, I know I do not.

0:05.2

They're gonna read you column and they're gonna come and get you.

0:07.8

No, no.

0:08.8

No, if they-

0:09.3

Wouldn't they come for the unbelievers?

0:10.9

Oh my god!

0:11.9

Be like, ah, in your face, Kyle.

0:13.4

Ha ha ha.

0:14.4

Yeah, if I get alien proof, you're all in trouble.

0:16.8

I am coming for you.

0:17.8

From the New York Times' opinion, I'm Carlos Rosari.

0:27.3

I'm Michelle Cottle.

0:28.9

I'm Ross Douthit.

0:30.1

I'm Lydia Pohlgrain.

0:31.9

And this is Matter of Opinion.

0:36.7

So this week, we're gonna talk about aliens and alien spacecraft.

0:40.7

Because allegedly the government has been hiding important information from us.

0:45.4

And of course, we'll also discuss our relationship with the government

0:48.0

and what it means that we always think people in power

0:50.6

are deceiving us about stuff like this.

0:53.1

But first, let's start with the aliens.

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