Wagner Moura

Wild Card with Rachel Martin

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 990 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Wagner Moura doesn’t compromise when it comes to doing work that feels meaningful and aligned with his values. That much is clear in the politically-charged Brazilian film, "The Secret Agent," for which he's earned a nomination for the Academy Award for Best Actor. He spoke with Rachel about getting better with age, the sacredness of performing onstage and why he's made seeking joy a priority.

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0:00.0	This message comes from the Thrive Center.
0:02.6	Their podcast With and Four, hosted by Dr. Pam King,
0:06.3	explores big questions about meaning and purpose
0:09.0	through conversations that bring psychology and spiritual wisdom together.
0:13.4	Follow With and For wherever you're listening.
0:16.4	Have you ever experienced some divine power?
0:19.5	There's some moments on the stage that there is a connection.
0:24.5	Something happens.
0:25.9	It's like there's something going on that's not from these.
0:29.3	Between you, the audience, the third thing that becomes your connection.
0:33.6	Yes, the third thing.
0:35.1	That it's divine.
0:36.7	I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard.
0:38.9	The show where cards control the conversation.
0:42.7	Each week, my guest answers questions about their life.
0:45.9	Questions pulled from a deck of cards.
0:48.1	They're allowed to skip one question and flip one back on me.
0:51.3	My guest this week is Wagner Mora.
0:53.5	There were moments that are like, oh, I really need that money, man.
0:56.0	Right.
0:57.0	You know, but I'm like, I can't do this.
1:00.0	I can't do that because otherwise I'll be miserable.
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