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The Journal.

Wagner Group’s New Frontman in Africa

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

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4.25.8K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

After Wagner leader Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed in a plane crash last month, he left behind a vast network of political connections, companies and mines throughout Africa. WSJ’s Benoit Faucon chronicles the rise of Wagner’s Dmitry Sytii, the current frontman of Wagner’s African operations. Further Reading: - The Elusive Figure Running Wagner’s Embattled Empire of Gold and Diamonds Further Listening: - The Plane Crash That Killed Yevgeny Prigozhin - The Mutiny That Shook Putin's Grip on Power Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Could you introduce yourself and tell us what you cover?

0:07.7

Yes, so I'm Ben Wa Foucault, my reporter covering Africa and the Middle East.

0:14.4

Our colleague Ben Wa has been keeping a close eye on the Wagner group, the private

0:18.8

mercenary company that represents Russian interests around the world.

0:23.5

Last month, the group's leader, Yves Gennie Pregozion, was killed.

0:28.2

Right now, we're following breaking news out of Russia where a business jet crash has killed ten people.

0:35.2

It's been confirmed that Yves Gennie Pregozion, head of the Wagner group, was on board the private jet.

0:41.2

Pregozion has been killed in a plane crash in a flight from Moscow to St. Petersburg.

0:48.2

Many thought that Pregozion's death marked an end to Wagner.

0:54.2

Was that your impression too?

0:56.2

Not exactly, because he not only created a brand, but also created an ecosystem.

1:05.2

An ecosystem that reaches into many countries across Africa.

1:09.2

It includes Wagner's armies and mercenaries, and also its companies and gold and diamond mines.

1:15.2

All of it is estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

1:19.2

So you can have that ecosystem surviving the death of his leader, with the same people, the same function,

1:25.2

and with the government in Russia struggling to really take control of it, because it's too far, it's too complicated,

1:31.2

and it relies on personal relationships.

1:34.2

So it sounds like Wagner is very much alive.

1:38.2

Absolutely. I mean, at this stage, the networks, the people, the personal on the ground remains in place.

1:47.2

Now, one man, according to Benoit's reporting, is the face of Wagner's business empire in Africa.

1:57.2

Welcome to the journal, our show about money, business, and power.

2:02.2

I'm Jessica Mendoza, it's Monday, September 25th.

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