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Welcome back to the Primal Blueprint Podcast today.

I am speaking with Wade Lightheart and Matt Gallant, or Gallant, G-A-L-L-A-N-T, but French-Canadian,

so we're going to pronounce it correctly.

They are from bio-optimizers.

This is a supplement company that I actually, after you gave me some free products the last time I was on your show, I regularly use your probiotic.

I switch it out between that and the primal one and another one.

I kind of switch them up occasionally.

So I can attest to using some of your products.

You also have a lot of really interesting other things that we'll get into. Wade, you, let's talk about, first of all, you can't really see right now, but you're,

you're like a, you're like a buff dude. You, you've been, you've been killing it for a lot of

years. Tell us your experience, how'd you get into health and even get into this game?

Yeah, when I was, you know, I grew up as a Canadian kind of ordinary life.

And then when I was 15, three simultaneous events happened in a short period of time.

Number one, my parents moved to a super rural place. In other words, it was five miles up a mountain,

literally on a dirt road and the telephone poles ended up on my dog. I'd take a snowmobile out

to get to the bus and drive an hour.

So I literally lived the life of uphill both ways.

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