This is Ashley Stone and you're listening to the Comeback Podcast. So you, I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. I think that your story, just from the little that I know about it, it is, it's one that people really resonate with in this time, I think.

It's just a lot of people are struggling with similar things.

And so to have somebody's experience of coming back from that

is really, really important, and it's kind of a guiding light for a lot of people in these situations.

Well, I'm so happy that we were able to get in touch and yeah, we'd love to just start from the beginning and

hear the story. Okay well I'm a little bit older than you know than some of

your well I guess I'm in a similar age to Leo and the other guys, but what happened for me when I left,

I was a similar age to the people you're, know 20s and 30s is I think is a more common age to be

struggling with this right now anyway we may step all the way back so I grew up in a very faithful

home both parents So I grew up in a very faithful home.

Both parents engaged and totally committed to the gospel

and they raised eight kids and it was a huge,

you know, you've heard this a thousand times.

By the way, that's something I'm recognizing.

I think a lot of us are tripped up and struggle and leave for some of the same reasons.

So the departure is very common, can be a very common story,

but the return can be very unique and that's why I think what you're doing is really good

because to share the stories of how and why people are coming back, I think is important and will be helpful to people.

Anyway, so grew up in a very gospel focused family. Both my parents were converts as

teenagers but we were all born in the church and very good parents to this day I have I have no complaints you know my dad in

particular was a priesthood leader and he worked for the church educational

system CES seminaries and institutes.

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