Waco: American Apocalypse, Part 2

You Can’t Make This Up

Netflix

True Crime, Documentary, Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Film Interviews

4.2 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Robert Rodriguez was an undercover agent with the ATF who embedded with David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. On the day of the raid, Robert knew the Davidians were tipped off that the ATF was coming, and he tried to call the whole thing off. Despite his warnings, the ATF went ahead with their plan, resulting in the largest gunfight on US soil in over 100 years, and Robert was pinned as the scapegoat. In a rare interview not included in the documentary series, Robert sits down with director Tiller Russell and recalls his time working undercover. He also shares in detail his experiences on the day of the raid and the toll it took on his personal and professional life. Waco: American Apocalypse is streaming now on Netflix.

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0:00.0	Hi, just a heads up before we start.
0:02.6	There's a brief discussion of suicide in this episode.
0:05.6	If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide,
0:09.0	information and resources are available.
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0:23.0	Welcome to the companion podcast for the Netflix documentary series Waco American Apocalypse.
0:36.9	With me today is a very special guest, Robert Rodriguez, former ATF agent who was had an illustrious career and was working under
0:46.0	cover at the time of the raid and had a very intense and moving story which
0:52.3	he'll tell you about today.
0:54.0	Robert, like let's rewind to when you're first tap to go undercover.
1:04.4	What's that like and kind of talk about the preparation that's involved for you
1:10.7	getting ready to go into the compound, you know, what you have to do, what they tell you,
1:16.2	what your cover is.
1:17.2	Take me through it a little bit.
1:18.1	I can just tell you that I had some partners that were kind of crazy and you kind of have to be crazy to do it.
1:28.4	You can't be a nice guy, you can't be something you do and it comes natural to you. As far as doing the undercover,
1:36.0	really nobody tells you how to do it. That's something that's built in to the agent and that was something that was already built in to me.
1:47.6	It takes a big set of balls to walk into a situation where you know it's life and death stakes and you're having to present
1:56.2	yourself as somebody you're not, right?
1:59.1	The Vivian case that was bigger than I ever done and I couldn't imagine how it was going to be when
2:07.6	Dave Eaguletta called me. Tell me who Davee Aguilera is for our audience you know
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