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on a podcast, this is real shit.

So you never had an extended conversation

with a white guy with extensive prison history

in such a form?

My conversations with the woods and in prison,

they call themselves peckerwoods.

That's what they call themselves.

Peckerwoods, the wood, power, all that shit.

So when we go to talk to them, because we very rarely know their name.

Okay.

Unless you work with them.

We don't know names.

We don't know names.

Yeah.

We don't know.

So when we refer to them to them want to holl at them, I'd be like, hey, would, let me holl at you. They don't hear that as disrespect. That's how we refer to him.

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