From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, which you can also hear at KCRW.com.

My guest, W. Kamau Bell, had one of the most malefluous and controversial album titles of all time,

face full of flower.

It's not what you think it is.

It probably is if you're a black person, exactly what you think it is.

He also has a terrific show, ending racism in about an hour, the W. Kamau Bell Curve.

You should know the best podcasts in the world of podcasts,

and with my favorite title, The Field Negro Guy to Art and Culture.

He's also now starting a show on FX, totally biased with W.K.coma Bell.

I like to talk to you, Kamau, but we're out of time.

You do too much stuff.

You know, I don't know if you know this. I'm not famous.

So I like to keep a lot of pots on the fire. Well, welcome here. As a friend of mine, I like to say,

I like to keep a lot of irons in a freezer, you know. But one of the things I like about you as a stand-up

is that, first of all, being a black man living in San Francisco, that alone gives you reams of material, does

it not?

Absolutely.

I mean, I wouldn't be the stand-up I am right now if I hadn't lived in San Francisco

for 15 years and walked out every day.

I'm like, where are the black people?

And how come nobody else cares?

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