This is the Last Laugh. I'm Matt Wilson from The Daily Beast, and today on the show we have our first in-person interview since before the pandemic with my fellow Bay Area resident W. Kamau Bell, who was returning to the podcast for a third time. But first, I am so excited to introduce my friend and fellow editor at The Daily Beast

who is going to be joining us at the top of every episode starting this week.

Welcome to the podcast, Allegra Frank.

Hello, thanks for having me.

Yeah, this is so exciting.

You know, I think listeners may know you from one of our year-end funniest performances

episodes that we've done in the past.

But yeah, you and I talk about comedy so much in our actual lives at The Daily Beast that

I thought it would be fun to have you on and start, you know, talking about some stuff that

we don't always get to talk about on this show.

And, you know, I think we're

both such big comedy fans with some of the same interests, some different interests. So yeah,

this is just, it's very fun to have you here.

Cool. Yeah, I'm excited. So you help run our obsessed section. So I thought it would be apt to

start by talking about the show that we are both most obsessed with right now,

I think, which is Gerard Carmichael Reality Show, which just premiered its first episode

on this past Friday on HBO. I think we're going to try to keep our conversation mostly to the

first episodes, so we don't spoil anything beyond that. But I will say that you and I have both

watched all eight episodes,

you because you had to review it or got to review it. And I, because I got the screeners and

just couldn't stop. Yeah. I mean, again, we will not toil it, but I feel like it just

kind of builds. And the first episode is so grabby that you

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