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🗓️ 13 August 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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VTubers, or Virtual Youtubers, are growing at a rapid rate in the United States. Just last month, 1200+ fans paid up to $180 each to attend Fantastic Reality, a live VTuber mini-festival in a packed theatre in Los Angeles. But what exactly is VTubing? Can you ever truly build a connection with someone you don’t actually see? Dexter talks to Kou Mariya, a 6,669-year-old blonde vampire anime girl and one of the headliners of Fantastic Reality. She explains what attracts people to VTubing and the practicalities of portraying a virtual character. Plus, as one of the producers of Fantastic Reality and a co-founder of Emerging Technology Company, Spencer Burnham joins the show to walk us through the music culture side of VTubing.
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Read + Watch:
Dexter’s article in WIRED, Anime Girl VTubers Are Selling Out Concerts, but Are They ‘Real’? Depends on Who You Ask: https://www.wired.com/story/anime-girl-vtubers-are-selling-out-concerts-but-are-they-real-depends-on-who-you-ask/
Fantastic Reality Website: https://www.fantasticreality.live/
Kou Mariya’s YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Kou_Mariya/videos
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0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
0:04.5 | Adventure should never come with a pause button. |
0:07.1 | Remember Movie Pass? |
0:08.4 | All the movies you wanted for just nine bucks? |
0:11.1 | I'm Bridget Todd, host of There Are No Girls on the Internet. |
0:13.9 | And this season, I'm digging into the tech stories we weren't told. |
0:17.4 | Starting with Stacey Spikes, the black founder of movie pass who got pushed out of the company |
0:21.6 | he built. |
0:22.8 | Everybody's trying to knock you down and it's not going to work and no one's going to like it. |
0:27.3 | And then boom, it's everywhere. |
0:29.3 | And that was that moment. |
0:30.7 | Listen if there are no girls on the internet on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. |
0:47.6 | No. or wherever you get your podcast. Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria! Maria! All right, I want to tell you about this wild concert I went to. |
1:01.0 | So, picture it. |
1:03.0 | You're in the middle of a sold-out concert at the Vermont Theatre in Hollywood. |
1:07.0 | This place holds about 1,200 people, give a take, but it is packed with fans. |
1:13.1 | Everyone's waving their glowsticks in unison, and they even set their glow sticks all to be |
1:18.0 | the same exact color. It's this deep red color because that's the artist's themed color. |
1:39.2 | That voice you just heard is Maria, and everyone is here to watch her sing. |
1:41.3 | She's not the only artist here. |
1:45.2 | On the stage, there's also a guitarist and a bass player. There's a drummer. |
1:46.1 | And behind them, there's this massive screen that takes up the entire back of the stage. |
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