Very pleased to be joined on this episode of the Warning podcast by the host of the David

Pacman show, David Packman himself.

This is the warning.

Today is the vice presidential debate.

It is the last major event, contact, if you will, between the two sides before the

final month of the campaign. We wait for the October

surprise, whatever that may be. But until then, there's a lot of campaigning to do. David, welcome.

Thank you. What are you looking for tonight as we get ready for this vice presidential debate?

A couple of things I'm interested in seeing tonight. Number one, as far as J.D.

Vance goes, is he going to show up and kind of be the alternative to Trump in the sense of

going towards policy, going away from personal attacks, or is he going to join

Trump in that kind of haphazard, brazen style that includes more recently saying Kamala Harris

is mentally disabled, et cetera. Like in other words, does J.D JD Vance want to show up and say, I am

Trump plus one or if you don't like Trump's politics, I'll do the buttoned up policy

discussion. That's one thing I'm interested in seeing. Number two, I expect that J.D.

Vance will try to make his opposition to Harris Walls partially along

the lines of we're against the elites.

We're against these East Coast liberals, et cetera.

And of course, Tim Walls is not that.

And so I'm very curious whether Tim Walls as the Midwestern, I know how to fix a clutch guy, um, is going to be able to repel that from JD Vance and actually show listen.

Vance is more more of that than I am for sure.

And so I'm interested in seeing that dynamic because they because they have a hammer. Vance has a hammer,

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