Welcome to this special episode of Words Matter with Katie Barlow. Words matter will be

relaunching in January with episodes posted on Mondays. In the meantime, we will be bringing

you new episodes as the news warns. Enjoy the show.

Our guests today are both recovering lawyers, podcast hosts and explainers extraordinaire.

Sarah Isger is a woman of many hats in addition to hosting the Dispatch podcast and advisory

opinions with David. She is a political analyst for ABC News, a former DOJ spokesperson and

has worked on three presidential campaigns and an all three branches of the federal government.

And David French, who is a senior editor at the Dispatch, a center right publication

focused on reporting and analysis. He hosts alongside with Sarah is an author columnist

for time and contributing writer at the Atlantic, including the author of his newsletter,

The Third Rail. I have had the pleasure. I must say of joining advisory opinions. And

I can tell you listeners that Sarah and David have truly created something special over

there because I said this to Sarah when I was on, but their audience is so smart, so

engaging, so responsive. There's always a follow up, call or question for something even

for a guest. And it's really something. So Sarah and David, it is my pleasure to welcome

you towards matter. Well, thanks for having us.

That's exciting. Yay. Words matter. Yay. Words matter. All right. So the reason we are

here, we are standing on the precipice of what seems like Roe v Wade being overturned.

Now that we have the benefit of hearing or a large mental though, we can dive into that

into the discussion, but we wanted to talk to to legal scholars, people who have thoughts

and opinions on all of this who can explain as our friend Chris Hayes asks on his great

podcast, why is this happening? So at the end of this, we kind of want our listeners to

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