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Amanpour

Volker: NATO needs Ukraine

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

As Russian airstrikes continue in Ukraine, NATO leaders are gearing up to hold their summit in Vilnius, Lithuania. The issue dominating the meeting is the much-debated topic of Ukraine’s accession into NATO. However, President Biden has poured cold water over that happening anytime soon by saying Ukraine is not ready for NATO membership. Former US Ambassador Kurt Volker argues that the opposite is true, and that the bloc needs Ukraine. He joins to preview the summit and discuss Ukraine’s position there.  Also on today's show: Former Mexico Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard; author Jeff Goodell; award-winning war correspondent Jane Ferguson  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Ammon Four. Here's what's coming up.

0:09.0

I don't think there is unanimity in NATO about whether or not to bring Ukraine into the NATO family

0:19.1

now.

0:20.1

Touchdown in Europe.

0:22.0

President Biden meets with the British Prime Minister on the eve of a critical

0:25.3

NATO summit. We look at how world leaders are soaring up support for the war in Ukraine.

0:31.3

And a bid to lead Mexico. I talk to the country's former foreign minister

0:36.0

Marcelo Ebrar about crime, immigration, and a possible run for president.

0:41.0

Then from catastrophic floods to record-breaking heat.

0:46.7

Author of, the heat will kill you first, Jeff Giddell lays out the stark reality of the climate crisis.

0:53.4

Also ahead.

0:54.4

It's not both-sidism and it's not water-bidism, but it's nuance and it's detail and it's

0:59.2

helping people understand that, you know, the difficult questions.

1:04.2

No ordinary assignment.

1:06.3

Award-winning journalist Jane Ferguson speaks to Hari Sri

1:09.4

of Austin about reporting in a war zone. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Bianna Galadriga in New York sitting in for Christiane

1:33.2

Amanpour. As Russian airstrikes continue to claim lives of innocent

1:37.3

civilians in Ukraine, NATO leaders are gearing up to hold their summit in

1:41.4

Vilnius, Lithuania.

1:43.2

The obvious issue hanging over the meeting is the much debated topic of Ukraine's

1:46.8

accession into the alliance.

1:49.1

But speaking exclusively to CNN over the weekend, President Biden poured cold water on that happening anytime soon.

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