Everything stripped, stripped of illusions, stripped of innocence, and so all the sort of safe things

that you get in your life about what the world is about.

It just goes away.

Hey everyone, I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to K-Bup

and this special series called Voices of the Movement, a series sharing stories and

reflections of some of the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement and their lessons

on where we go from here.

I met Minigine Brown Tricky at a salon with civil rights veterans as they call themselves at the

Sunnaylands retreat in California the first weekend in January and I'd heard the name

before but I'd never met the woman before.

I'm one of Little Rock Nine, and the Little Rock Nine,

a group of young people who desegregated Central High School in 1957.

So it's almost in the middle ages.

It happened a long time ago.

I was compelled to interview Minichine because, one, whether she likes it or not, she's a civil rights

icon being one of the Little Rock Nine.

But it was something she said, she said, I want us to basically take down this hero myth that surrounds us.

We're not heroes. We're just ordinary people who happen to do some extraordinary things.

And when she said that, it was so simple, but it was so profound because I understood immediately what she meant.

You pick up a history book and you read these signposts of civil rights history.

Rosa Parks refuses to sit on the back of the bus.

The four little girls blown up in 16th Street Baptist Church.

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