Hello and welcome to Happy Place with me, Fern Cutton, today.

We are heading back to this year's festival in Tatton Park with Vogue Williams.

With anxiety, you can, loads people, you find a different way to manage it, and it can only be managed.

It will always come back and go away and come back and go away.

And for me, I wanted to do therapy, which I do. I was struggling to, like, sleep properly. And then if I wasn't sleeping, I was more anxious the next day. So I couldn't really get to the point where I was able to do even therapy, because I'd just be going around like this the whole time, clenching my fists and just being anxious. So then I got beta blockers off my doctor. So that kind of allowed me to

calm down a little bit and then to be able to actually think about what was making me so anxious

and then to try and deal with it through that way. Oh, thanks to you gorgeous humans who came to

the Happy Place Festivals this summer. Tatton Park, which we've just had the other weekend, was

an almighty event. I loved every minute.

We had weird weather. It was either pissing with rain or glorious sunshine. But you know what?

You hearty northerners, you amazing Cheshire dwelling Butts, I know not all of you came from Cheshire, but many of you live in Cheshire.

You were so amazing at just cracking on with the yoga, come rain or shine, meditating, whether it was pissing down or boiling in the tent, listening to talk, shopping, eating. You just cracked on. And I love you for that. It was an amazing celebration. And I'm so grateful. It was beautiful to meet so many of you. So thank you, thank you.

Now, on to our live podcast, which we recorded at the Happy Place Festival.

Gorgeous TV presenter, Vogue, was the first guest on the talk stage this year.

So we had this chat at 9am. First thing, Vogue was terrified. No one would turn up so early, but the tent was absolutely

rammed. We were both very awake and very chatty. So we talked about a lot of things. I mean,

I could talk to Vogue for weeks. I feel like we need to continue this chat, but over a tequila,

because we had so much to chat about. We talked about what make Karen Spencer compatible, which she was

very honest about. We also talk about alcohol, her relationship with alcohol. There's alcoholism

in the family. So she's kind of been dealing with her own relationship with alcohol in a really

level-headed, grounded way. We talk about intrusive thoughts and panic attacks,

which I know many of you also deal with. I've certainly dealt with in huge bouts over the years.

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