Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Hey there, folks. I am very excited about my guest today. He's just told me how to pronounce his name, and I'm going to try. Vody, Bacom, Vody, welcome to this program.

Thank you very much. It's great to be with you. That's really the only question I had. How do you pronounce your name? And we're done, basically. So we can just talk about anything you like. You, listen, I've, you've been booked on this program a couple of times.

You have had major health issues. So I am just thrilled that you're looking good. You're here.

We're having this conversation. But welcome back to the land of the living, because you've been through it.

Yeah, I have, man. In fact, I'm here right now in Jacksonville, Florida, where I'm finishing

up treatment at the Mayo Clinic and I've had a couple of heart surgeries. But all is well.

I'm on the road to recovery and feeling a lot better.

You had a couple of heart surgeries.

You make it sound like, I'm going to get a couple of, you know, newsman.

A couple of heart surgeries.

Honestly, we're just glad to see you.

Now, look, part of the reason I'm so glad to see you is because you have some important things to say that very few people are saying.

They're certainly not saying it in the way that you are.

Your brand new book, which is doing extremely well, is called Fault Lines, Fault Lines, the Social Justice Movement and Evangelism's looming catastrophe.

So let's start there.

What's the thesis of your book?

Well, the thesis of the book really is that social justice is not what most Christians think it is.

And that people are being sucked into it with good intentions,

but it's going, it's not going to end well. That's why I use the fault line metaphor,

that whole earthquake metaphor. We're seeing a massive divide, and we're seeing it divide families and churches and, you know, ministries and businesses and so on and so forth.

And I just want people to, number one, be aware and secondly find themselves on the right side of the fall line.

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