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The Good Fight

Vladimir Kara-Murza

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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In this live episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk talks to Vladimir Kara-Murza, a leading Russian opposition activist, about the prospects for democracy in Russia and around the world.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The way these dictators dismantle democracy is they do it in a careful way and if you look at how

0:39.8

Mussolini did it in the early 20s in Italy and how Putin did it in the early 2000s in Russia.

0:45.0

I mean, they followed almost the exact steps, and almost in the same order.

0:50.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:55.0

Welcome to the second live installment of a podcast that searches for the ideas, policies and strategies that can be to for

1:01.7

a time populists like Donald Trump over the next four years.

1:05.6

And the next 40.

1:07.8

It is a disgrace that Donald Trump has in the last days and weeks congratulated Vladimir Putin,

1:17.0

General Alsici, on their supposed electoral victories. By the time you hear this he has probably congratulated

1:26.7

Victor Arban on his clean democratic re-election in Hungary as well. But this is one of those rare moments in which Trump actually is more normal than abnormal, in which he is more the rule than the exception.

1:44.8

Because when you look around the world,

1:46.3

you see that Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany,

1:50.1

and Claude Juncker, the President of European Commission,

1:53.0

also congratulated Vladimir Putin on his supposed electoral victory.

1:59.0

You see that a few days after Germany decided to expel Russian diplomats over the Russian

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