Welcome back to the Future's Edge podcast. I'm Jim Murillo. As always, the brains behind the operation co-host and executive producer Bob Aichino.

Today we have a special guest. Vivek Ramaswami, you've probably heard of him.

He's one of the leading candidates for the GOP nomination.

There's a couple things I'm going to say before we start.

Okay, if you give to candidates, it's not always because you are sworn to them and you're giving them your firstborn. We give to candidates to get them on the debate stage. So whether there's things you agree with or disagree with from the Vex policy, if you think that he deserves to be in the conversation, even if it's going to sway your conversation, then give to his campaign. We'll get him on the stage, we'll call those other people to answer these questions. I like most of the things of the Beck says,

and I haven't even necessarily decided who I'm

going to vote for yet.

I just love the things he's saying.

Thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule,

of the back.

My pleasure, guys, it's good to be on.

I love the way, I love the way you guys do things light-hearted.

And you know, I love the way you explain that too, because people get too obsessed over

the question of the who.

Forget the who for a while.

That's for next year, right?

You want to ask the question of the what and the why.

Nobody's casting votes in the presidential primary this year.

This year is about define what do we do? in the presidential primary this year.

This year is about define what do we stand for, why do we stand for it,

get the thoughtful people, hopefully myself included on the debate stage,

and so I tell people give a dollar, give five dollars, it doesn't matter, that actually helps the cause and the movement.

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