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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Sam Kean

History, Arts, Science, Books

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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How one doctor, and his revolting experiments, singlehandedly ended the deadliest dietary epidemic disease in American history... For more on Sam's New York Times-bestselling books, see http://samkean.com Help keep this podcast going by becoming a patron for as little as $2 a month, at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon See bonus material and hear bonus episodes at https://www.patreon.com/disappearingspoon Follow Sam on Twitter at https://twitter.com/sam_kean ... on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/SamKeanBooks ... or on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/historyschmistory/ Above all, thanks for listening! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

In many ways, Joseph Goldberger's filth parties were pretty tame.

0:06.0

These get-togethers took place in medical clinics with no booze or music and just a handful of guests.

0:12.0

But the appetizers?

0:14.0

Well, those definitely lived up to the name of filth parties.

0:19.0

Goldberger was a tall doctor from New York City with a firm jaw and wavy red hair.

0:26.4

In 1916, he was studying a mysterious disease called Pelagra, which caused skin rashes and diarrhea.

0:34.2

During his research, he'd scrapes scabs off his patient's skin

0:38.2

to study them, as well as collect urine and stool samples, Pretty standard stuff. But what happened next violated every

0:46.7

rule of hygiene imaginable. Before each filth party, Goldberger took the scabs and urine in feces and mixed each ingredient

0:57.0

with some flour.

0:59.0

He proceeded to knead the mass into small bites. Then, with a sigh or a prayer, every guest at the party had to

1:08.5

choke these appetizers down. In fact, calling this a filth party seems like an understatement.

1:17.0

So what on Earth would possess someone to do this?

1:21.0

Well, science, for one thing. Goldberger was trying to prove that, unlike most

1:26.5

epidemic diseases, Palagra was not caused by germs and was therefore not contagious. But deeper than that, Goldberger was also

1:35.8

motivated by anger. Politicians had been attacking him for his research,

1:41.3

calling him a fool and a liar. Even worse, the attacks prevented patients from getting help, delays

1:48.8

that led to death. Swallowing scabs and feces may sound extreme, but to a crusader like Joseph Goldberger,

1:57.0

it was the only reasonable thing to do.

2:08.0

Hi, I'm Sam Keene, and you're listening to the and you're listening to the disappearing spoon,

2:11.0

a topsy-turvy, sciencey history podcast, where footnotes become the real story. Goldberger worked for a government agency called the Public Health Service or PHS

2:31.6

and he was famous or notorious for his obsessive focus.

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