Welcome to Banquist, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance.

And today on Banquist, we're exploring some new frontiers about the future.

I think quite frequently in the crypto-web3 and Banquist content sphere, when we talk

about the future that crypto brings, we use frames of references from the past,

and try to try to talk about the future of finance, DeFi.

We want to fix Web 2 with Web 3.

But today on Banquist, I want to bring this conversation that we had at Permissionless

with Vitalik, the opening day, the final day, day 3 of Permissionless, that we had with

Vitalik, that we called Ethereum for the future.

I think it's very easy to imagine use cases like DeFi, like Web 3, like NFTs, when we

have previous correlates to understand, it has a frame of reference to think about

what a new form factor for these things could be.

But what about the things that Ethereum can produce, that Web 3 can produce, that don't

have a historical form factor?

What about the new use cases, the net new things that can emerge because we have the

new properties of what crypto can bring to the table?

This is the theme of this episode and a conversation that I had with Vitalik Buterin.

The sibling technologies, AI, decentralized science, synthetic biology, lots of the things

that happened and went down at Zuzalu, but really just as a meta theme of understanding

the new things that will come out of crypto, the things that we can't articulate.

I asked questions of Vitalik, like, if he could duplicate himself and start a startup,

which industry would he start it in and how would it relate to crypto?

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