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The Dig

Visions of Freedom w/ Piero Gleijeses Part 2

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2021

⏱️ 122 minutes

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Summary

The second of Dan’s two-part interview with Piero Gleijeses on his book Visions of Freedom: Havana, Washington, Pretoria, and the Struggle for Southern Africa, 1976–1991. This is the story of Cuba’s military defense of the Angolan government against a US and South Africa-backed effort to overthrow the People’s Movement for the Liberation of Angola (MPLA). The future of the entire region was on the line—including the fate of apartheid in South Africa and of Namibia, then a South African colony.

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which features some of the most urgent and exciting political writing, essays, fiction,

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1:32.6

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

1:37.3

My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

1:42.8

Today's episode is part two of my interview with the historian of foreign policy,

1:46.0

Piero Gliases, on his book, Visions of Freedom,

1:50.6

Havana, Washington, Pretoria, and the struggle for Southern Africa,

1:53.3

1976 to 1991.

2:03.7

Visions of Freedom tells the incredible story of Cuba deploying a massive military and social aid mission to defend Angola's government against a U.S. and South Africa-backed effort to overthrow the people's movement

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