From Pod World Headquarters, this is the Carolina Insider from Learfield IMG College.

We're back time for another edition of the Carolina Insider Jones and Adam here with you

and looking forward to being with you here for the next hour to hour and a half.

So just get your mind wrapped around the fact that we will be in your

home or car for the next 90 minutes or so. We will look back at the Virginia game, not what we wanted from the Torio perspective.

Have a really good interview with a previous pod guest Jake Lawler back for his second go round

with the pod now a little different of course last time Jake was with us he was

here with Zach Goings. They had the inside the film room podcast and so we did a movie

review, a Roadhouse challenge with them. That was back on Pod 200.

Lo many years ago. Actually not that long ago, a little

more than a year ago. And, but this time it is Just Jake, we talk about his movie that just came out.

He had a short film that came out in a film festival.

We talk about that.

We talk about his time at Carolina.

We talk about him being very forthright with battling depression and so all of those things come up. It's a really a

really good interview not because Adam and I did anything.

As with most things that happen,

someone else carried Adam and me to the finish line,

so that was good.

Oh, speaking of Adam, hello!

That's how you win when someone else carries you to the finish line.

Yeah.

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