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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for waiting. We have got Murray back after her part

one went viral. I think 150,000 people have watched it still going up. And Mary has brought Charles

with her this time. And, you know, as many of you, if you've watched part one, Mary is a victim's

advocate living 15 miles from one of Virginia's properties

and she had a unique insight into what happened and the kind of news reporting

and the funeral that's just happened in the media blackout in Perth.

And Charles also, well, I'll let Mary and Charles come in and tell you a bit about themselves before we move on to the story.

So Mary, do you want to introduce Charles as well?

Yeah, I met Charles not a few months ago, I suppose, and he has been helping us to put together some film footage.

We're endeavouring to do a documentary on child trafficking and the information that's been accrued over a long period of time.

Charles is an advocate in his own right and he has been supporting people and advocating for

them for many years now so Charles you take over go on you talk about yourself

yeah sure so I got into this through the child protection system actually in

Australia so my stepdaughter had her children removed

and I sort of assisted her with the legal process.

We got to the end of that and just various things just didn't feel right.

It just felt like there was no proper legal process so I

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