Virginia beats back Trump's redistricting gamble
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🗓️ 22 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamara Keith. I cover politics. I'm Stephen Fowler. I also cover politics. And I'm Domenica Montanaro, senior political editor and correspondent. Today on the show, the midterm battle lines are getting clearer with election results from Virginia last night. |
| 0:26.1 | Voters there narrowly approved a ballot measure to redraw congressional district lines, |
| 0:30.4 | a mid-decade redistricting that significantly favors Democrats. This was just the latest turn in a redistricting arms race. |
| 0:35.1 | President Trump kicked off last year when he pressed Texas lawmakers |
| 0:38.5 | to draw the state's congressional map to favor Republicans. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries |
| 0:44.3 | talked about the results on NPR's Morning Edition. Donald Trump indicated that he was going to |
| 0:50.8 | rip away 10, 12 or 15 seats from the people of this country in states like |
| 0:56.4 | Texas and Missouri and North Carolina as part of an effort to rig the midterm elections. |
| 1:03.3 | That effort has now been thwarted. |
| 1:06.6 | Before we get to what this means more broadly in the midterms, let's talk about what happened in |
| 1:10.7 | Virginia. What do you two read into the midterms, let's talk about what happened in Virginia. |
| 1:11.7 | What do you two read into the results? |
| 1:13.8 | Well, I mean, I don't know if Hakeem Jeffries knows how to do the icky shuffle or any, I don't know what his touchdown dance is, but that's sort of what it seemed like there. |
| 1:25.3 | Yes, he was doing, he was spiking the football. |
| 1:28.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:28.5 | Because the fact is, Trump started this fight. |
| 1:31.7 | As a lot of the bumper stickers in Virginia said, Texas started it. |
| 1:36.8 | And that was the argument that, yeah, you may not like gerrymandering, but we got to do it this one time to fight fire with fire. And in a year when |
| 1:46.5 | Democratic voters are upset with the Trump administration and the intensity against Trump is as high |
| 1:52.0 | as it is, this is a huge win for Democrats, provided that the state Supreme Court upholds what |
| 1:58.2 | happens here. This could net Democrats four seats, which is |
| 2:02.4 | huge, especially considering the landscape is so small and the margin is so tight. And it's also |
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