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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

'Violation,' Part 1: Two sons, lost

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

On Point, News, Daily, Talk Show, Npr

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Why did Jacob Wideman murder Eric Kane?

In 1986, the two 16-year-olds were rooming together on a summer camp trip to the Grand Canyon when Jacob fatally — and inexplicably — stabbed Eric.

That night, Jacob went on the run, absconding with the camp’s rented Oldsmobile and thousands of dollars in traveler’s checks. Before long, he turned himself in and eventually confessed to the killing — although he couldn’t explain what drove him to do it.

It would take years of therapy and medical treatment behind bars before Jacob could begin to understand what was going through his mind that night. It would take even longer to try to explain it to his family, to his victim’s family and to parole board members, who would decide whether he deserved to be free ever again.

This debut episode of “Violation,” a podcast from WBUR and The Marshall Project, introduces the story of the crime that has bound two families together for decades.

Jacob’s father, John Edgar Wideman, is an acclaimed author of many books on race, violence and criminal justice. He spoke with Violation host Beth Schwartzapfel in a rare, in-depth interview about his son’s case that listeners will hear throughout the series, including this premiere.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, it's Megna dropping into your feed on the weekend to offer you something I think

0:05.8

is really special.

0:08.0

It's a new podcast from WBUR and the Marshall Project, and it's called Violation.

0:15.2

Violation is a story about a famous writer, a terrible crime, and our national parole

0:19.9

system, which many say is difficult to navigate and in desperate need of transparency.

0:26.7

This new podcast brings important new reporting to criminal justice, and it's also a very powerful

0:32.3

story.

0:33.3

So we're sharing the first episode of The New Show with you today.

0:37.1

And if you like it, please find it and follow it in the same podcast app where you get our

0:42.4

podcast.

0:43.4

Here's episode one of Violation.

0:47.4

WBUR Podcasts Boston.

0:55.9

Would you be willing to read a couple of passages?

0:58.1

I brought some of your books with me that speak to some of these issues.

1:02.0

Depends.

1:04.2

I don't want to get into anything that even begins to feel like he said she said, because

1:12.2

I didn't go anywhere.

1:13.4

I have a couple of, I flagged a couple of passages.

1:16.7

Let me see.

1:18.7

This passage here that I marked with the red pen.

1:22.0

I don't know if I can read this particularly after looking at that picture of him.

1:29.8

This is John Edgar Wideman, author of more than a dozen books, English professor, Rhodes

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