Vincent Lloyd on What Happens When “Antiracism” Goes Wrong

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Vincent Lloyd is a Professor and Director of Africana Studies at Villanova University. His latest book is Black Dignity: The Struggle against Domination. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Vincent Lloyd discuss how his summer school seminar on black history was derailed by the language of “harm”; how well-intentioned efforts at contemplating past and present injustice can devolve into dogma and bullying; and how we might more effectively work to bring about racial justice. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:06.4	We're here for the Premier League,
0:09.0	and the Barclays Women's Super League.
0:12.1	We're here for the football chance for giving more girls a chance.
0:18.0	We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.
0:27.6	Barclays, here for the land of football.
0:31.2	I think there's something that's deeply problematic with the multicultural paradigm that had been obscuring anti-Blackness, which it was causing all sorts of harm, as is being revealed every day now as we're investigating anti blackness in real estate in
0:43.8	health care and environment on and on. They're real problems there and we need a new
0:47.9	paradigm to address that but we're in a moment of transition so it's unsettled
0:51.7	what that will look like and because it's
0:53.1	unsettled this sort of toxic and abusive environment can grow up because there's no
0:58.4	settled karate. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.
1:09.0	The Val Dorcha in Tuscany is one of my favorite parts of the world. It is so beautiful that it's easy to
1:17.0	imagine that those who are lucky enough to live there will never have experienced anything truly terrible.
1:24.5	But that is a mistake.
1:26.5	At the height of World War II,
1:28.5	the residents of the Vallejocha
1:30.0	became a staging ground for some of the most bloody clashes between partisans and Nazi occupiers
1:38.8	with the SS exacting bloody retribution for any attacks on the trips.
1:50.0	And one of my favorite outlooks, an inconspicuous plug now reminds visitors of a somber history.
1:58.0	You who pass and ponder with peaceful valley, it reads,
2:02.0	Stay a while and remember those who have perished here. In times of
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