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The Good Fight

Matthias Matthijs on the Future of Europe

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Matthias Matthijs is Associate Professor of International Political Economy at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies and Senior Fellow for Europe at the Council on Foreign Relations. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Matthias Matthijs discuss Germany’s Zeitenwende and why the country has found greater success than its European peers in countering right-wing populism; the spoiler potential of the European right-wing from Giorgia Meloni to Viktor Orbán; and why, despite the long road ahead, Matthijs remains optimistic about the European project. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This year at the University of Aberdeen in Scotland slapped a trigger warning on

0:57.6

J.M. Barry's Peter Pan, a classic children's novel about a place where nobody ever grows up.

1:03.2

Yes, you heard that correctly. A children's book now comes with a trigger warning for

1:08.5

adults. And what's more, Peter Pan isn't the only children's book that comes with an advisory at Aberdeen.

1:15.2

Among others are Treasure Island, the Railway Children, and even the Lion, the Witch and the

1:20.8

wardrobe.

1:22.0

Last year the university put a trigger warning on Bear Wolf, the epic poem considered one of the most significant works in the English literary canon

1:29.0

for its depictions of animal cruelty and ableism. And you know what? Aberdeen isn't the only

1:36.0

British University following in the steps of American counterparts. This trend is

1:41.6

alarming. Not only does it fly in the face of research on the effects of such advisories,

1:47.0

there's something particularly perverse about appending them to works of literature and art.

1:53.2

Engaging with art isn't simply a matter of extracting information

1:56.7

or following the storyline.

1:58.8

Literature is transformative precisely

2:01.6

because it has the ability to shock and surprise.

2:04.0

It can jolt us out of our complacency,

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