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The Watch

Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn on the ‘Pluribus’ Season 1 Finale

The Watch

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Chris and Andy briefly talk about the ‘Pluribus’ Season 1 finale (1:02), before they’re joined by series creator Vince Gilligan and star Rhea Seehorn to unpack the episode (8:25). They discuss Carol and Zosia’s complicated relationship, how they tackled the measured rhythm of the story, the challenges Seehorn encountered in acting opposite the Others, writing the second season, and much more. Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Watch’ and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:31.2

I need sports to have to clear the room.

0:40.7

Stand up and walk now.

0:43.2

Hello, and welcome to The Watch.

0:44.5

My name is Chris Ryan.

0:48.5

I am an editor at the ringer.com and joining me on the other line.

0:50.8

But shortly, you'll be joining me in the studio.

0:52.4

It's Andy Greenwald.

0:53.1

Good morning.

0:53.8

We are the collective.

0:54.6

I can be anywhere at any time. It's absolutely right. Andy, today on the watch, we are going to be bringing folks an

0:59.6

interview that we did in studio a couple of days ago with Ray Seahorn, the star of Plyuribus and

1:04.0

Vince Gilligan, the creator of Plyrobus. We talked a lot about the broader themes and ideas

1:09.7

of the first season of the show. So we didn't get into super detail about the broader themes and ideas of the first season of the show.

1:11.9

So we didn't get into super detail about the finale.

1:15.6

But I think what we'll do is since it's an extensive interview and it's a great chat with these guys and they were so generous for their time,

1:21.5

we're going to get into that interview as soon as possible.

1:23.9

And maybe Andy and I will save some of our more detailed thoughts about the finale and the season as a whole for when we come back on January 5th after the New Year's. So Andy,

1:32.3

anything you wanted to just throw out there as like a top note headline pluribus for

1:39.1

people to take with them? I mean, it was definitely more about South American, like, village and folk traditions than I would have expected going into the season, but I do love the fact that TV can still surprise me in 2025.

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