Welcome to the Victor Davis-Hanson show. Victor is the Martin and Nileander

since senior fellow in military history and classics at the Hoover

Institution and the Wayne and Marshall Busky Distinguished Fellow in history at Hillsdale College.

He is an author, scholar, cultural, and political critic. He writes for American greatness,

and he also writes for his own website, The Blade of Perseus. And you can join that website

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Today's show, we have a special guest, Mark Moyer. He has written many books, but among which are

the triumph forsaken, The Vietnam War from 1954 to 1965, published in 2006. And his most recent book,

The Triumph Regained, The Vietnam War 1965 to 1968. He has a PhD from Cambridge University and

has taught at Cambridge Ohio State University, Texas A&M, and was on the faculty at the Marine Corps

University at Quantico as the Addamsons Chair of Insurgency and Terrorism. He is most currently

working at Hillsdale College as the William P. Harris Chair of military history. So we would like to

welcome Mark Moyer and let's take a moment for some important messages and we'll be right back.

Welcome back, Mark. I just want to say before handing over this to Victor that I come from the

generation of Chiminos, Dear Hunter and Coppola's Apocalypse now, which are rather bleak movies and a

bleak portrayal of Vietnam. So I'm looking forward to an appraisal that's much less negative of the

legacy of Vietnam in the US. So welcome to the show and Victor, I'll hand it over to you.

You might have mentioned platoon too, Oliver Stone. Yeah, I'm full metal jacket except I took

metal jacket and born on the fourth of July. So Mark, I'll get right to it. This is volume two that

has just come out for everybody listening that's triumpt, regained the Vietnam War 1965 to 1968.

And this is the second volume in a trilogy. And as Sammy said, 16 to 17 years ago, you kind of made

a big impression on people. I shouldn't say kind of you did with triumpt for second. And that theme

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