And I think what happens now is when people see this, they now go, we don't want the government involved in all.

Yep.

Which you basically take an opportunity where you could have done this the right way, and you now have to undo all of the bad crap that you've done.

Is there an example of the government regulating speech at any point in human history where it stops with one thing that is agreed upon as wrong

and it never goes past that exactly i can't think of it exactly that's the problem

Rottimi

That's it

Oh, you killed it, man

I got it right

You killed it. Did I nail it? Oh, you killed it, man. I got it right. I was so nervous about that last name all day. I was definitely saying that wrong for the last year or so. Imagine how I was when I was a kid and my mom is teaching me that. She's like, okay, here's your first first name here's your last name and yeah just think

about that don't feel bad at all I couldn't even do it for a little bit well dude thank you so much

for coming in I know you had a weekend in New York City stopped through here for the day you know I had to

I had to come by man I had to come by I appreciate it because your timing is great yeah we got a lot

talk about you got a lot to talk a. We've got a lot to talk about.

A ton talk about. So just as a disclaimer out front on your behalf, I know we talked about this, but you are not here on behalf of the ACLU. Yep, here on my own, of course. Okay. So all the opinions expressed herein are of you. And're all mine all mine well that's all we

no one else is yeah i like i don't like people to take a company line on stuff yeah so you know

they're all mine all right good well can you start off by just explaining exactly what you've been

doing on a day to day over the last year or so with the ACLU yeah Yeah, totally. So I'm a communications advisor for the Voting Rights Project. So, you know,

it's a group people that work on voting rights litigation. And then I kind of help tell the story

of the ACLU's voting rights work in a communications way. So whether that's online, in the press,

and the media. so helping to tell

that story of what we're doing to protect the right to vote in the media. So I really like it.

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