It was really season two of fantasy factory.

So long story short is, Rob and Big, I was like lucky to be on that, right?

Like I squeezed my way in, being like the stupid little assistant.

But I watched everyone make so much money.

I watched Rob make all this money from DC.

I watched Big Black make all this money from his clothing line.

But I was like, I didn't make the cut to be able to make money.

Yeah. I just wasn't that big of a character.

So when fantasy factory started, I was like, okay, how am I going to make

what's my thing? What am I going to do?

I didn't do it in time for season one, but season two is when I launched

young and reckless and when I really like took off on my own stuff.

And that all started because you were in Ohio, Rob's from Ohio,

and you got hurt in a skateboard accent, right?

Yeah.

And then you realized, yeah, then you realized you weren't going to be a skateboard.

So you moved to LA to live the dream, working a skate shop.

And really what happened was I actually listened to Big Black's podcast.

And I think he kind of jumbled a little bit of the stories.

He made it sound pretty damn cool, like that one to be a rapper and then all this stuff.

But really what happened was my brother was an incredible skateboard.

He's four years older than me and still is an incredible skateboarder.

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