Hey, this is Lindsay People's Editor-in-Chief of the Cut.

This month on our podcast in her shoes, we talked to designer Mara Hoffman.

Hoffman was just awarded CFDA's environmental sustainability award and also

released her first dress made entirely from recycled fabric. We hope you'll

join us for this month's series sponsored by evening. Julie Alexander is a reporter for the verge.

She's also a huge fan of the band American Football.

My favorite song by them, which is also their most popular, is never meant,

and the twinge of the guitar right through when there's a

melodic change which is this really joyful hopeful melody so inherently part of this moment of music that I grew up with. I think actually

Vulture named never meant the greatest emo song of all time.

Back in April, while Julia was quarantining at her parents' home in Toronto,

she saw on Twitter that the band was playing a concert.

But the show wasn't at the local rock venue downtown. It was being held in a video game.

The idea that I could maybe replicate a bit of an experience that I get from going to concerts

was so tantalizing that there was no way I was not going to do it.

Today on the show, how the concert experience has adapted to life under lockdown.

I'm Arielle Zormaross. It is a world in which people can go in and there are

fantastic game-playing elements the way that we think of video games which is

there are creatures that you can fight and there are things that you can do but

Minecraft is also this really great virtual design field for anyone who wants to go in

and build things the primary thing that people can do when they first load the game is they can

craft tools, they can craft parts of a house and you kind of dig into this block like dirt and then you collect materials and you can build things with those materials.

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