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Victory over coronavirus: the lessons of VE day

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The Times

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🗓️ 8 May 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

What can the jubiatilion and uncertainty of VE day teach us about what 'victory' over coronavirus might look like?


Guest:

Ben Macintyre, associate editor, columnist and a writer-at-large for The Times.


Host: Manveen Rana.


Clips: Imperial War Museum.

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0:00.0

75 years ago today the war in Europe ended. It was a day of great celebration but also great uncertainty.

0:13.0

Churchill said, you know, this is your victory and the crowd shouted back,

0:16.4

no, it's yours.

0:18.8

Yet two months later, the British had voted Churchill out of office.

0:24.0

The anniversary of V.E. Day was supposed to be marked with street parties and concerts.

0:29.0

Instead, people all over Britain will mark it at home, as the country is once more in the

0:35.3

grip of a crisis.

0:36.3

There's not going to be a sudden moment when this is one and when the wretched virus signs a surrender document

0:45.4

and gives up its arms. That's not going to happen.

0:47.6

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday Times.

0:51.6

I'm Manveen Rana. Today, what can VE day tell us about our current

0:57.6

crisis? I'm Darren Brown. I've made a career out of learning the inner workings of a brilliantly messed up brains.

1:13.4

So together with the help of powerful human stories,

1:16.7

expert advice, and the odd experiment

1:19.9

will help you wrestle control over your life fears and emotions. The complete

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1:35.0

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1:42.0

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1:46.2

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1:50.8

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1:58.0

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