It's Wednesday, November 23rd.

Welcome to Mark Foolery.

I'm Chris Hill.

It's a short week for us because of Thanksgiving,

but you know, we couldn't make it too short.

We couldn't, we couldn't just leave it at one or two. We wanted to you know well get

three quarters of the way through the week. Something a little different today. A couple

of years ago I got the chance to interview Jonathan Chevron.

Jonathan is a veteran financial columnist in Canada.

He's written books.

He's been the editor-in-chief of Money Sense magazine.

When we launched Molly Fool Canada,

Jonathan was actually one of the people

that we got in touch with pretty early in that process.

So, we're fans of Jonathan's work.

Last week, Mark Wreath talked with Jonathan about his brand new book, which is called

Victory Lap Retirement.

They covered a bunch of topics, including advice for millennials, and the conversation began

with Jonathan sharing how he defines financial independence.

It's really the point at which all your passive sources of income from pension investment

income etc.

Exceed your monthly nuts.

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