Hello, welcome back to you. We are History Poet. I'm Angela Barnes.

And I'm John. And this week, John, we've been clever, haven't we? Because we're doing historical, but also a little bit topical.

This is what we do, ladies and gentlemen, is what we do is serious, it's funny, it's seriously funny.

It is, well, it's, yeah, depending on your move.

Now, we're not doing the Black Death again.

It's not that sort of topical, but we are, we're going to look at the anti-vaccination movements of the 19th century, which people don't really think.

Antivaxers feel like such a modern concept, but it was actually much more significant and popular than you might think, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

I was sort of sniffing around.

I was came out of, I read an article in the London Review of Books,

Angela. Oh, John, you're so intelligent. And it's so, there's not many pictures in it at all,

you know, or puzzles, very little celebrity gossip. No crosswords, what? But it turns out there was a

sort of massive anti-vax movement in the 19th century.

And most of our listeners probably think, well, like me, not be that sympathetic to anti-vaxxers.

You'd think of peers Corbyn, singing about wearing a mask, being like keeping a fart in your trousers.

That's satire, Angela.

Did you see that video on that tube?

There's something for you to aspire to if you're a satirist. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen in my life.

But in Victoria in England, I, having read a book about it, I think it was perhaps a lot more complex.

Sorry, John.

Just start me something.

Did you just call me an aspiring satirist?

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