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Homebrewed Christianity

Victoria Barnett: Dietrich Bonhoeffer & Our Times

Homebrewed Christianity

Dr. Tripp Fuller | Theologian, Philosopher, Minister

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.6 • 612 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

How does one read the signs of the times? What does it mean to resist? How do we engage faithfully in the struggle? Dietrich Bonhoeffer has achieved iconic status as one who epitomizes what it means to struggle and resist tyranny and fascism and how one acts in faithful witness as a religious and political commitment. Bonhoeffer‘s witness and example is more relevant than ever. In this episode, I am joined by the preeminent historian of the Holocaust and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Dr. Victoria Barnett. Jeffrey Pugh and I got to talk to her multiple times throughout our work for the Rise of Bonhoeffer, and our last conversation was so rich that I couldn't help but share it here. Our discussion focuses on a crucial essay penned by Bonhoeffer in 1942; "After Ten Years" is a succinct and sober reflection and remains one of the best descriptions ever written about what happened to the German people under National Socialism. We also let Vicki demythologize some popular ahistorical attributions around Bonhoeffer's life. Victoria J. Barnett served from 2004-2014 as one of the general editors of the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works, the English translation series of Bonhoeffer’s complete works. She has lectured and written extensively about the Holocaust, particularly about the role of the German churches. In 2004 she began directing the Programs on Ethics, Religion, and the Holocaust at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum until her retirement. Her published works include Bystanders: Conscience and Complicity during the Holocaust (1999) and For the Soul of the People: Protestant Protest against Hitler (1992). This conversation centers around her translation and significant introduction and historical analysis of Bonhoeffer's "After Ten Years": Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Our Times. Check out the Bonhoeffer Audi-Documentary series - the Rise of Bonhoeffer podcast here. Garrett Theological Seminary sponsored this episode. Seminary education isn’t just for pastors. Social awareness of the world’s most pressing problems, robust ethical analysis, empathic biblical wisdom, and courageous leadership are skills you can use across a wide range of vocations. Whether you feel called to care and counseling, public service, prophetic arts, or non-profit management, there’s a degree program at Garrett Seminary that’s right for you. Our global faculty and diverse student body nurture class discussions that reflect the contextual realities in the communities you’ll serve, and our commitment to hands-on learning means you’ll have plenty of opportunities to put that knowledge to use. Located in the heart of Northwestern’s campus, just a short train ride from Chicago, let our city be your training ground. Garrett also offers fully online and hybrid programs. So wherever and whoever you are, apply to begin your fulfilling new career today. Learn more here. _____________________ Join my Substack - Process This! Join our class - TRUTH IN TOUGH TIMES: Global Voices of Liberation Spend a week with Tripp & Andrew Root in Bonhoeffer’s House in Berlin this June as part of the Rise of Bonhoeffer Travel Learning Experience. INFO & DETAILS HERE Get access to over 45 of our online classes at TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What is up theology nerds? This is Tripp. And today, on the the podcast you're going to get to hear a rather

0:41.2

powerful informative and wide ranging conversation with victoria barnett she is a legendary

0:48.6

bonhofer scholar over the course of working on the rise of bonhofer jeff Jeff Pugh and I got to talk to her a number of times.

0:56.2

And this was our final conversation.

0:58.3

And it was just so packed full of amazing historical nuggets, framings, provocations that I wanted to release an edited version of it here for everyone.

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Victoria Barnett is the general editor, the complete works of Bonhoeffer for a long time

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worked at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C.

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has written some powerful books on looking at the confessing church, looking at the nature of bystanders and in the rise of

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Nazi Germany.

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And I'm going to link to a bunch of her books and such for you to go check out.

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But throughout this entire process, she was a wise person to have on her side.

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And I just wanted to share this conversation to hear what

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it's like talking to a historian who somehow has all this, all this research just sitting in their

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mind. And yeah, so thank you, Vicki, for all the time you gave us in the process. And I hope you

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all enjoy this. And if you're,

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if you're going to check something out, check out our book bystanders. It's one of, one of

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those books that I've read twice, and it, it just, it changed everything. All right? Now, before we

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