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Victor Davis Hanson: Trump Must Avoid These 3 ‘Civilization Killers’ When Tackling the National Debt

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🗓️ 26 May 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump is the first U.S. President in over 30 years who is seriously talking about reducing the country’s budget deficit, trade deficit and yes, the national debt, which has ballooned to over $37 trillion.    However, he must follow a specific formula, otherwise, it will end in tragedy, argues Victor Davis Hanson on today’s edition of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words:”     “Jermone Powell, the head of the Fed, will not lower interest rates even though there's been a good jobs report, a good inflation report, a good corporate profits report. GDP is gonna be evaluated, apparently, upward and there's been low energy cost. That mortgage is still 4.25% Fed rate to 4.5%. And that means mortgages are still 6.5%, 7%. And that housing market is slowing as a result.   “So, you've got to get that down. And the way Trump has to do it is just two ways: Either cut the budget or raise taxes—which will strangle the economy—or continue the tax cuts. And hope two things: that the tax cuts—the extension—will prime the economy, along with cheap interest rates.   And the question that we all have now: Is cutting taxes on tips, is cutting taxes on Social Security, is cutting taxes on first responder, etc.—all of which Trump has mentioned—is that really stimulus as opposed to, say, accelerated depreciation investment for businesses? I don't know the answer. But I do know, as a historian, that if you do not cut the deficit and the national debt and you have bond raters like Moody's or the Fed that will not lower interest rates, you're going to be in a crisis.”  👉Don’t miss out on Victor’s latest videos by subscribing to The Daily Signal today. You’ll be notified every time a new piece of content drops: https://youtube.com/dailysignal?sub_confirmation=1…   👉If you can’t get enough of Victor Davis Hanson from The Daily Signal, subscribe to his official YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/victordavishanson7273…     👉He’s also the host of “The Victor Davis Hanson Show,” available wherever you prefer to watch or listen. Links to the show and exclusive content are available on his website: https://victorhanson.com  The Daily Signal cannot continue to tell stories, like this one, without the support of our viewers: https://secured.dailysignal.com/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'd like to talk about debt, debt, debt. All during the last few days, we've heard some

0:35.7

startly news. Moody's the bond evaluator for the first time in its history since 1917 has lowered the credit

0:43.3

rating of the United States government.

0:45.4

Didn't do that during the 2008 meltdown.

0:48.0

It didn't do that during the Great Depression.

0:50.2

So what is Trump trying to do and is it working?

0:52.5

Well, he's the first president since Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, the Speaker of the House,

0:57.3

who's talking about reducing a $2 trillion budget deficit, a $1.2 trade deficit,

1:03.4

and addressing a $37 trillion national debt.

1:06.9

But is he actually doing it?

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Music debt, but is he actually doing it? Hello, this is Victor Davis Hanson for the Daily Signal.

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I'd like to talk about debt, debt, debt.

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All during the last few days, we've heard some startly news. Moody's the

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bond evaluator for the first time in its history since 1917 has lowered the credit rating of

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