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Gloss Angeles

Vicky Tsai Wants You to Think About Your “Joyspan” and to Fight Burnout With Balance

Gloss Angeles

Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan

Charlotte Palermino, Halsey, Sara Tan, Kirbie Johnson, Rihanna, Beauty Podcast, Arts, News, Entertainment News, Selena Gomez, Hailey Bieber, Fashion & Beauty, Beauty

4.8679 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Vicky Tsai returns for her second Gloss Angeles interview! The Tatcha founder drops by six years after her first appearance to discuss how Tatcha has grown since 2019 (after an acquisition), what remains the same, what skincare as a category needs to improve upon, the brand’s most underrated product, what she’s done to help her health since entering peri-menopause, and the reason she created The Longevity Serum after a life-changing trip to Okinawa.


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0:00.0

G.M.

0:02.0

Los Angeles.

0:05.0

Hi Kirby.

0:07.0

Hi, Sarah.

0:08.0

Welcome to Los Angeles.

0:14.0

Vicki.

0:15.0

Welcome back.

0:17.0

Hey, you guys.

0:18.0

Repeat guests.

0:19.0

We're not in a hotel room. Yeah, sitting at a coffee table. Do you remember? We came to you in a hotel room with our mics. I remember. That was so much fun. On a floor. And praying that it was recording. I was like, hope it works. I remember the room was cold and my nose kept dripping. Yes. Remember that? Yes.

0:37.7

I do remember this.

0:39.0

But still one of our favorite episodes and we're so grateful that you're back. Two of my favorite people. Congratulations on the incredible longevity of your podcast. Longgevity. That's the theme. That's a theme of the day. We love a call out. Okay. Before we get started, I just want to say, I read that in 2017, you told the

0:57.2

cut you would wake up at 4.30 a.m. and you traveled 90% of your life.

1:03.3

Yeah.

1:03.8

Is that still the case?

1:05.4

Hell no.

1:06.7

Woo!

1:07.8

I sleep in until at least 5.30 now.

1:11.1

Yeah, get that extra hour30 now. Oh, my God.

1:13.9

Yeah, get that extra hour, girl.

1:18.0

No, it's taken me a few years to, like, downregulate my nervous system.

1:28.0

I think a lot of that was, at the time, I didn't realize it, but I think a lot of it was, like, my nervous system, just nonstop, nonstop, running, running, running, running, running.

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