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months for free on the two-year plan. Now back to the show. All right, Simon. We haven't done that for a while. I know. You know smugness. I am familiar with smugness. Yeah, I am very.

Because the reason I ask is there's a very fine line between being smug and being self-confident.

And I've been listening to a few podcasts recently and I just end up thinking,

you guys sound really smug, and I know that people will think that of us as well.

So I'm just trying to work out what the different, at what point you cross over for being

self-confident to being smug.

I don't know, I mean I'm very aware of the fact that I'm we say people will think we're

I think people think I'm smug I don't think they think you're smug but people think I'm

smug and it was well I think if you well it confuses I mean, I listen enough people have told me that that's how I sound, so I know that's how I sound. But the weird thing is this. I don't, you know, I don't feel smug. What I mean is I'm actually fantastically unconfident and constantly sure that I'm wrong about everything.

And the very essence of smug is that you're convinced that you're right.

So apparently I sound like I'm convinced that I'm right.

But I've got a mug somewhere. But you're a critic. So therefore you know if you didn't think you were

right about your views you wouldn't express your views in the first place?

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