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But looking back, it sure seems like Eisenhower was very much giving the vibe that he was

lukewarm about Nixon, that it wasn't that he I think he campaigned for him I think he gave some speeches I'm not sure but there's certainly some stuff showing that Eisenhower was not the biggest Nixon fan to the extent that that showed

well that's kind of hard if if you're trying to overcome these obstacles we've talked about and you have the sitting vice president

saying yeah well he really hasn't done much you know he has not been a big

voice in this administration and you know I'm basically

going to go golfing and not do that much for his campaign that really in a close

election which of course it was the closest of elections, that can make a difference, right? Oh, Okay, I'm so glad to be joined by a presidential historian David Priests.

David, how are you? Amature. presidential historian David Preys.

Hello, how are you?

Amateur presidential historian.

I'm reminded of that more and more every day

that I'm not working on a new presidential history project that, you know, I did a couple of books, as you know, one on intelligence and one on how presidents have left office, but I'm interacting with and reading the wonderful work of no kidding presidential historians and

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